MLB needs to take a leaf from the NBA to protect players from talentless hacks like Dipoto. If Im being honest I believe hes done a great job so far. After the trade: But with Bergman due back and Alydms Diaz. ANd loss 5-4 way to go Dipoto I hope they fire you!!!!! Double Double - Went 3-for-4 with 2 doubles on 8/1 at Texas. Do Not Copy Without Permission. Did I say he could become great? Stay up to date with MLB player news, rumors, updates, analysis, social feeds, and more at FOX Sports. You have got to be kidding me!Why? Most teams at that point dont have a negative run differential. What is the thought process behind this in Seattle? I even like the player tje received. Winker will make more than $8 million next season, meaning the Brewers are gaining some slight savings in this trade. Not sure why the mariners would give up Graveman but we can assume future moves on their part. Typical Mariners type transaction. Toro goes yard in his 1st AB for the Ms!! 3B Abraham Toro-Hernandez assigned to Houston Astros. contract info. It never changes., He hasnt come down here, a player said of Dipoto. well Just to go on record. Not to say that the NBA keeps it simple either, but MLB is hardly the standard for simple and straightforward transactions and contracts. MLB needs to replace like 90% of owners and GMs. and today we gave up a 4 to 1 lead to the Yankees. Toro goes yard in his FIRST AB for the Ms!!! Signed thru 2023, 1 yr/$1.25M (23), Service Time (01/2023): 2.149 25 AB)trailing only Ken Griffey Sr.s .472 (17x36) batting average in his first 10 games with Seattle from Aug. 31-Sept. 14, 1990. Smith, who has struggled this year and has an ERA over 7, recorded a 1-2-3 seventh inning in the second game of the series and needed just nine pitches to do so. He has . Somy guess is another deal is incoming in the Mariners side. Sewald has stepped up Swanson looks good they think they can get by with the bullpen less the best arm in the pen. After dropping the first game of the homestand to the Oakland Athletics, the Mariners went on to win the next three games to take the series. Wonder what Seattle wants with either of the players they acquired. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. Love the oddity, so rare today to have a challenge trade let alone in the Division with 2 teams battling for playoff spots ! The former Athletics starter has bounced back from an injury-lost 2019 season to emerge as one of the American Leagues more effective relievers. The trade is even more eye-opening when considering that the two clubs are gearing up to play each other in the second game of a three-game set tonight. Or write about sports? This is my thinking. Hence.this trade. Wow. The narrative will be that Jerry is still rebuilding so hes looking at the long-term picture. At best hes a roll of the dice, and at worst hes a financial counterweight who could be cut loose quickly if his struggles persist. The most comprehensive sports salary database. No, I did not. I dont know why people on here always say baseball should take a page out of the NBA. Cheers. They got 33 elite innings from him, sold high, and flipped him for 5 years of a good prospect, With 60 games left youre only going to get about 23 more innings from Graveman, innings that are likely to be regressing down from his ridiculous 0.82 ERA, 23 relief innings for 5 years of a prospect with above average BB% and power potential is a huge win. The Mariners, meanwhile, added an experienced reliever in Smith and a young infielder who is controllable with some nice upside and can play multiple spots defensively. 6:02 pm ET, Braves vs. Mets odds, picks, computer sims, Phillies star Harper could make return this week, White Sox snap 10-game skid with wild comeback vs. Rays, Phillies vs. Astros odds, picks, predictions, best bets, Longtime Cards broadcaster Shannon dies at 83, Mariners acquire Kolten Wong from Brewers, What to know about Juan Soto's slow start, White Sox pull Luis Robert for not hustling vs. Rays, Padres, Giants tie record as 10 players homer in Mexico, Rangers' deGrom lands on IL with elbow inflammation, Yankees slugger Aaron Judge has mild hip strain. Hes also seen time at first base. Find out more. He hasn't made good on that promise yet, hitting for a career 74 OPS+ while primarily playing second base. I love how people read the article and then parrot it like they thought of all that info themselves. It must be watchable for most people. what a terrible trade Jerry thanks for letting mariners fans down..lets trade our best reliever to The astrosfor a washed up RP and an unproven infielder..You just put us further away from the wild card spot this year. And we brought up Kikuchi before, who lasted five innings in the series finale and gave up four runs, with three being earned. @MrAngelFan Nope one AB doesnt make a player good. Second Baseman and Third Baseman, Team: The Mets gave away Paul Sewald, who is apparently the new closer. Making History - Became the first player in MLB history to homer for and against a single team on consecutive days when he homered in his first AB for the Mariners on July 27 also homered in previous two games with Houston prior to trade on July 25 vs. TEX and July 26 at SEA. Not sad to see Joe Smith go. We have control over Toros contract, who was Houstons #3 prospect for the next five seasons. . But maybe Im wrong. How is that supposed to help the team? Browse our online application for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, EPL, or MLS player contracts, salaries, transactions, and more. 7HR, 3SB and 22RBI in 106PA. Cashman response, well I tried calling but the phone lines were busy. Smith is a free agent at seasons end so it doesnt really matter. Anyone know if the Farhan Zaidi plans on making any moves? Theres no question we got better. How much did they pay you under the table to lose?Why would the owners allow this?!! The Stros may have their own ideas on how to help a reliever who was quite good with the Rangers in 2019-20 right the ship, but Monteros inclusion doesnt appear to be a key part of the swap. Toro, 24, hasnt yet pieced things together in limited big league action, but hes decimated Triple-A pitching (.392/.497/.600 in 33 games) and posted strong numbers in pitcher-friendly Double-A settings (.282/.369/.468 in 148 games). C Abraham Toro-Hernandez assigned to Tri-City ValleyCats from Greeneville Astros. Graveman is a rental, but he upgrades their bullpen for this season. Double Agent - Hit .324 (12x37) with three doubles and three homers against the Houston Astros, his former team. Groz Remembers 2001 Mariners: When Ichiro became Ichiro. Toros still young and hasnt gotten a huge opportunity yet in Houston but to think we may have gotten our 3rd baseman of the future for a pitcher on an expiring contract, Id say, not a shabby deal. When I read the news at first I was hot! To see the rest of the Abraham Toro's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. Spent his first full season in the Majors, making his first career OPENING DAY rosterbatted .149 (13x87) with three home runs and nine RBIAppeared in 33 games (19 starts), making 10 starts at 3B, six at DH, two at 1B and one at 2BDrew a walk in his first career POSTSEASON appearance in Game 3 of the ALCS. @nevibes One AB makes a player good.???? Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. Hes been unhittable when hes right this year. Thats why the Mariners are where they are. The Astros upgraded their bullpen a bit with the addition of Graveman. These cookies may be set through our site by our advertising partners. vs. DET 4 AB, 0 H, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB, Rookie Status: God I can hear the prayer in the background. That series begins on Friday after an off day on Thursday. This transaction is just one piece of a puzzle that will come into view by Friday eve. For two months +playoffs they got a Good return. LOL. Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. I think this moves means he is gone before Friday. Id be willing to bet Sewald is the new Graveman and Steckenrider will sneak in and get saves with Sewald. In those four games against Oakland, Mariners starters allowed 10 earned runs in 19 2/3 innings (4.58 ERA). Kelenic was dealt for Robbie Cano and Edwin Diaz.And he was drafted in the top 5 by a New York team No surprise hes received a lot of hype. At the time it was his second blast of the series, as he hit a solo shot while with the Astros in the series opener on Monday. Toro is a potential replacement for Seager either this season if Seager is traded or next when they inevitably decline his option. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. The Mariners have a ton of draft capital that they can choose to use to further augment the Big League roster. Im convinced all the pub about 22 year-old Jarred Kelenic is unwarranted, and in fact hurting him. They may have been headed to the playoffs before this move, but now they wont because of this move. We present them here for purely educational purposes. Its not like he was trying to troll his own plays or fans. 6-keys: media/spln/mlb/reg/free/stories, at the contract will likely top out paying him somewhere in the range of $2.65MM based on incentives tied to days on the roster . It doesnt help Seattle. And alienated his own clubhouse. They help us to know which pages are the most and least popular and see how visitors move around the site. Wow. Graveman is good, but has also been lit up at times. Servais is OK hes a pretty good manager but Dipoto must GO! No problem ,I learned alot when I graduated from Devry university plus I also stayed at A Holiday Inn last night. fighting for a Wild Card berth and Dipoto just dealt away their closer. Good on James Click to improve the team and stay under the tax because this year, Graveman is essentially working for free in MLB terms (1.25 million.) We ought to have a sense of perspective. He is doing a good job and we are playing better than anyone thought. $1.25 million contract with the Brewers for the 2023 season, avoiding salary arbitration. Theyre not basically calling them bums indirectly lmao, I dont really see how this helps the Ms. Riiight because Graveman cant potentially be a key cog in a deep playoff run for the Astros? Astros made out like bandits by getting a great closer and were able to rid themselves of a prospect with no signs of progress. Aledyms Diaz hasnt been blocking anybody since possibly the 1st half of his rookie year with STL. I think Sea is building really really well. No need to go straight to their dumpster. Wong, 32 . You can set your browser to block or alert you about these cookies, but some parts of the site will not then work. The other two relievers ara a part of the transaction but who knows!? Graveman could have landed some real prospects instead of a future utility guy. Abraham Toro is a Second Baseman and Third Baseman. Especially the Bullpen. I think its not a bad trade for Toros potential moving forward, But I dont see how this improves the Mariners unless Dipoto moves Toro or Smith to acquire something better. Toro, who now has home runs in each of his last four games, went 1 for 4 with a walk, stole his fourth base of the season, and made a stellar defensive play. Boy, that is strange trading in division. Trending Pages . We have or had already good hitting all up and down our lineup Abraham we didnt really need. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? 2. a disaster of a pitcher who was never going to pitch for them again. Capable of becoming a regular and more. Six of those runs came in the first. Do you have a sports website? I mean if I were an Ms fan, Id be mad right now. MrAngelFans comment aged pretty wella whole two hoursLMAO. Guy slings a 99mph turbo sinker and a filthy slide piece at 90 mph. Livid in fact. Abraham Toro was born on December 20, 1996. Toro signed a one-year, $1.25 million contract with the Brewers on Friday to avoid arbitration, Robert Murray of FanSided.com reports. You dont make your contending team better by trading your closer and clubhouse leaderand he went to a rival who could end up eliminatingthem from postseason play if they were to get in. Right now it doesnt make sense, but lets wait until Friday. 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. This looks to be their best chance to end the postseason drought in years. Do you have a blog? Hello Seattle - Was acquired along with RHP Joe Smith from the Astros in exchange for right handed pitchers Kendall Graveman and Rafael Montero on July 27. But this one hurts the most and is the most (expletive) up. How much do you really know NFL; NBA; MLB; NHL; MLS; EPL; WNBA; Research; Same goes to Straw and McCormick, the Astros cannot keep both so trading Toro and Straw/McCormick is painless. I grew up watching a team that didnt make the post-season for 2 generations. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. Even if it results in something else like Turner or etc,I would not have moved Graveman in a playoff push. Mariners got Great deal for us, gotta say this is a head scratcher for Seattle. Im assumming Hanniger is next. Abraham Toro was drafted by the Houston Astros in the 5th round of the 2016 MLB June Amateur Draft from Seminole State College (Seminole, OK). A look at the injuries for Abraham Toro, and the financial implications. With Kyle Seager the Mariners everyday third baseman and the team having multiple options at first in Ty France, Jake Bauers and Luis Torrens, the bulk of Toros innings are likely to come at second base the rest of the way. 22,032nd in major league history) But they will see he WILL make the team better this year. On August 22, 2019, the Astros selected Toro's contract and promoted him to the major leagues. Abraham Toro Contracts. DiPoto better be gone next year.This doesnt make any sense. Houston radio is saying the same exact stuff right now. Theres no way our FO would make this move w/o having a plan to add pitching and a proven bat. After completing his collegiate season, selected by the Astros in the fifth round of the draft on June 10signed on June 20 and reported to Rookie Level Greenevilleplayed in 44 games for the Astros, but did not hit a home run. Much of the play-by-play, game results, and transaction information both shown and used to create certain data sets was obtained free of charge from and is copyrighted by RetroSheet. It never changes. If you see him this week at your local car dealership, tell him its okay to take a walk on showroom floor and take a look at the newest models. Its really very obvious. The team deserves an explanation., Players arent the best judges of how to run a franchise whatsoever, Id have more of a problem If my GM lent an ear to them than sitting in his office doing his job behind closed doors. 10/10 would read comments again. Graveman was just going to bolt in free agency anyway and you probably got the better 33 innings from him this year before (maybe) fatigue sets in. They can always pick up another arm still. Mariners won. Toro was sent to AAA for opening day because the front office wanted him to play every day, because they saw him as a future big leaguer that still needed some experience and development. Now they are going to trade for a cheap reliever with remaining control. They are so stingy with moving prospects but always land impact players at the deadline. 6 de julio de 2018: 3B Abraham Toro asignado a Corpus Christi Hooks de Buies Creek Astros. He built the system up and so far he hasnt let 100 games of success ruin the long term plan. Toro doesnt really play 2B. Only time will tell how this trade works out for both involved trading teams. The Panthers have made a huge trade for the No. However, this trade was absolutely horrible and he will no longer have my support. I feel Jerry has put the perfect slow burn to this roster to date, do his other gears still function as well, IDK. In a few years Mariners ownership can do what the Padres did give Jerry an ultimatum to win or else, give him a big payroll budget, and have him trade a grab bag of his overrated prospects for veterans to teams that cant afford their salaries and have the personnel to develop the youngsters correctly even though they wont be the big stars they were sold as (run on sentencebut you get the idea). And the Mariners arent giving the Astros Graveman for Aledyms freakin Diaz. My oh my what an odd tradeas a Mariners fan I was sure hoping for something better than this. yeah, I dont get it either. (Getty). Yeah, its a bit if a head scratcher Id have expected a better return for Graveman especially from a division rival. !This makes me not wanna watch the rest of the year. $1.25 million contract with the Brewers on . Maybe they see Toro as a player who, along with Austin Shenton and maybe Noelvi Marte, might help solidify 3B for them once Kyle Seager is gone although Ive been a Mariners fan since the franchise started, and would love to see a trade or two designed to help the Ms NOW. I cant believe we gave you Graveman for so little. I wish teams would stop gifting the Astros great playoff pieces for nothing. Whats even more troubling is that it hints that Seager is getting replaced cheaply. He sits up in his suite, playing fantasy baseball and rips apart our team without telling us anything., Another player via text said that no one has heard a thing, and later texted: Ive seen a lot of teammates walk out that door. Will the Ms flip Toro in a package for Trea Turner? He's entering the final season of his contract, during which he'll earn $10 million. All information these cookies collect is aggregated and therefore anonymous. And Hector Santiago has served his ridiculous suspension. Toro is a third baseman by trade, but in his first start for the Mariners on Wednesday played second base for just the second time in his MLB career. I guess so Steve but Ive seen toro for awhile and I mean, hes okay but nothing special. First time thats ever happened. Money that could be allocated to other more important areas of the roster such as the starting rotation. In the first of two deals on Tuesday by general manager Jerry Dipoto, the Mariners made a four-player swap with the Astros less than 24 hours after the two teams played a very emotional game. When you visit any web site, it may store or retrieve information on your browser, mostly in the form of cookies. Houston Astros recalled 3B Abraham Toro from Sugar Land Skeeters. Its pretty obvious you dont understand baseball or are somewhat delusional yourself. view 1 MLB Payroll Tracker; view 2 2023 MLB Salary Rankings; view 3 Toronto Blue Jays Payroll Table; view 4 2024 MLB Free Agents; view 5 Los Angeles Dodgers Payroll Table; Spotrac on Twitter. This trade doesnt make much sense. Find Abraham Toro-Hernandez total career earnings, contracts & net worth breakdown. That wasnt the case at all in the series loss to the Astros. Toro is a solid B prospect. We are just being reactionary because its easy. He then hit another today, so four games in a row. Out of the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, and heck, even PGAthe NBA is the most unwatchable sport. I hope youre right as I tend to be on the longterm outlook of deals and I dont like this one at all. Partnered with the USA TODAY Sports Media Group|Powered by, Recalled from the Minors by Seattle (SEA), Signed a minor league contract with Seattle (SEA), Est. August 1, 2019: 3B Abraham Toro assigned to Round Rock Express from Corpus Christi Hooks. Toro isnt upgrading 2nd base or anywhere. In that deal, Seattle acquired 14-year veteran Joe Smith and 24-year-old infielder Abraham Toro, who is under contract through 2025. I think it is a good move too. One game out of wildcard and trade one of the best closers in the game to division rival that desperately needs one for a prospect that has struggled for 3 straight years at the major league level and a aging reliever that is a shell of his former self. Seattle Mariners recalled 3B Abraham Toro from Tacoma Rainiers. But after last nights game felt for Houston something would be coming. Abraham Toro signed a 1 year / $1,250,000 contract with the Milwaukee Brewers, including $1,250,000 guaranteed, and an annual average salary of $1,250,000. But am shocked Seattle sent Graveman but that other pitcher do not know enough on. Split his second professional season between Class A Short-Season Tri-City and Class A Quad Cities, combining to hit .246 (59x240) with 11 doubles, 15 home runs, 33 RBI and an .859 OPS in 69 games. Which three teams made your cut? Ten Games of Toro - Hit .432 (16x37) with 8 runs, 3 doubles, 3 home runs, 6 RBI, 3 walks and 1 stolen base in first 10 games after joining Mariners, getting on-base at a .488 clip, slugging .757 with a 1.245 OPShis .432 batting average ranked 2nd-best through a Mariners players first 10 games in club history (min. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Keep gathering youngsters with potential until you have your roster overflowing with youngsters with potential. Watch this space, lol. Signed a one-year contract on 1/13/23, avoiding arbitration. I guess As fans are really happy to see Seattle tearing down instead of contending. I hope the wallet comes out as soon as next yearWe shall see, these things can never be assumed. Makes Houston much better with Graveman in the pen, and they have a way with helping pitchers like Montero,think this may come back to haunt Jerry. February 9, 2023: Canada activated 3B Abraham Toro. Some defensive statistics Copyright Sports Info Solutions, 2010-2023. Im sure there are players who are far better evaluators of talent than any GM is. To trade Wilmer back home to Queens. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. . You keep telling your employer that winning is in the future. Abraham Toro had 170 hits over his career. The Mariners have started the season 2-5 after the first homestand. The big news from this homestand is that that the Mariners were very active in the trade market. Seattle may seem like longshots for the division (as well as a wild card), but they have one of the weakest strength of schedules remaining and they just proved they can challenge two of the best teams in the league. Jesus. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Milwaukee Brewers optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Nashville Sounds. Use of any marks, trademarks, or logos on this website shall not constitute a sponsorship or endorsement by the trademark holder. Also, by disabling these cookies you will also disable banner ads served by Google Adsense on this website.. For more information about these items, view our complete privacy policy.Read More. Its sort of job security. Who knows how long this can last. Hit .252 (57x226) with 28 runs, 11 doubles, 5 home runs, 26 RBI, 3 stolen bases and 22 walks in 60 games with the Mariners. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. I agree. Winker, 29, is coming off a down season that saw him post a 103 OPS+ and finish below the replacement-level line. And as for Kelenic v Soto.. Well, thats just ridiculous. In that deal, Seattle acquired 14-year veteran Joe Smith and 24-year-old infielder Abraham Toro, who is under contract through 2025. You gave me a nice laugh with that line. I still remember watching Edgar Martinez hit scoring Griffey Jr. Was A huge Jr fan growing up so when the mets were out of it back then I followed the Mariners as much as I could,great memories. Graveman and Montero didnt pitch in the final two games of the series against the Mariners, but both Toro and Smith got to play right away against their old club. You received two months of graveman and a seven era guy for a seven era guy and what was a top 5 prospect In The Houston system. Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Monday, May 1, 12:21AM. The switch-hitting Toro then got the start at second in the series finale while hitting fifth in the order, and all he did was blast his second home run as a Mariner. He last pitched on July 20. about your favorite athlete? When you visit any web site, it may store or retrieve information on your browser, mostly in the form of cookies. I think hes clearly better than his numbers show. Toro is going from a great hitters park with a lineup full of great hitters to a pitchers park with a poor hitting lineup. Montero was pretty good in a rangers uniform. Boy that would probably be a first. Thats all I got. Leftover salaries from players who have been traded or released, or buyouts for declined options. Toro goes in a package to Washington for trey turner, In other news Trey Turner just got tooken out the game, is this Jerry,s next move, 6th grade was the best 5 years of my life. What they dont need is more lottery tickets. Free Agent: 2027, More Abraham Toro Pages at Baseball Reference. . (Age 22-245d, Attended Seminole State Junior College in Oklahoma His parents are from Venezuela..they moved to Quebec before he was born Is trilingual, speaking English, French and Spanish. How much longer do you think the Angels will waste Mike Trouts career? salary sport. Toro is blocked by Bregman and Aledyms Diaz. Come on Jerry, lets buy. Joe Smith 0.7 bWAR, Please login to leave a reply. He was rated as a 45+ 3rd base prospect which would have slotted in as about the Mariners #5 prospect pretty much equivalent to Emerson Hancock (generally thought of as an untouchable player for us). They do not store directly personal information, but are based on uniquely identifying your browser and internet device. All the RPs who have said our Org has helped them become better. The players were pissed their veteran closer got traded to a divisional rival for a prospect in the middle of a playoff race while theyre playing a series against them. Here comes Toro! In case you might have forgotten, this is likely Seagers last year in Seattle. Milwaukee Brewers optioned 3B Abraham Toro to Nashville Sounds. If they keep Toro, well, that probably spells the end for Seager in Seattle, which would further upset the fans as they would have the remainder of the season to overthink and stress it. Somewhere in an alternate universe, Shohei Ohtani is still the greatest show on alternate Earth, Mike Trout plays 162 games every season, Anthony Rendon signs a free agent contract and hits .300 . The Astros had to decide between Toro and Diaz, they couldnt keep both in overlapping roles. I thought there was no chance. Sammy youre so far off base. SEATTLE -- The Mariners have landed their much-coveted second baseman and filled a left-handed need in their lineup, acquiring Kolten Wong from the Brewers on Friday in exchange for outfielder Jesse Winker and infielder Abraham Toro.
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