Because of this, the follower reliably engages the slide lock when empty, but it does not sufficiently support its final round as it enters the chamber. In this one, polishing the feed ramp rarely ever changes anything. They polished the ramp/chamber. Some people just never get it. Not sure but I believe it would appear "stuck" or wedged at the slightly upward angle. I've fed it Blazer, Speer Lawman and Winchester White Box, all 45 ACP FMJ. I dropped those mags in the dirt hundreds or thousands of times, and never once tweaked a feed lip. The majority of the time it is on the last round where I have the problem. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. (John Hancock). WD40 doesnt belong on guns. Colt 1911 officers model/DFM .45 ACP magazines (steel, 7-round capacity), GI mags: Colt 1911 45 (steel, 7-round capacity), Take a look a the ProMag 1911 10 round magazine. The BOB misfeed is closely related to the Rideover misfeed, and is caused by the same issues. 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A common side-effect of the push feed is a broken extractor. I have a rock island armory rock ultra fs in 10 mm it rarely feeds flawlessly on the reload and shoves the bullet into the feed ramp and jams what can I do to fix this issue? Stiff enough to not bend, but still ductile enough to be dropped on concrete and not crack. And thats where Dremel Dans Double Throwdown RampnThroat job brings the tears of regret. The last thing to check is if the bullet is out of spec. Cut the wall with the cutting edgechecking the deflection with each cut on the first attempt. It CANNOT be used as a personal lubricant. Usually the spring, but sometimes the follower is involved when the angle isnt correct. Just wondering if anyone has encountered an issue similar to mine and did it get corrected. Home Defense: How Accessible Is Your Gun? In 1911s, I mean. Proudly powered by WordPress Many forms of stainless trade hardness for embrittlement. I believe they polished the extractor. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe and receive notifications by email. The mag bodies were in spec. My Ruger P95 has the same problem. Last round failure to feed At my last two practice sessions I have noticed that my Colt 1991 has started failing to feed the last round in the magazine. Not 1 failure to feed in well over 3000 rounds each. I left one full for years and the other one empty for one firearm and the spring that was compressed for years failed and caused jamming when I finally decided to do some teaching, etc. Occasionally this particular issue is due to a too-steep feed ramp, or one that is too shallow from the top of the frame to the bottom of the ramp cut. The 1911 gives a lot of leeway in this area as long as proper magazines are used. How often do you replace yours? Most stoppages arent jams, even though most people refer to a stoppage as. It just breaks. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. All it takes is one drop on the feed lips to create a problem. Removing it is offered as an indication that these people think theyre smarter than John Moses and the Dream Team. You probably know who makes them. With the ghostly invisibility and the power to control minds from a distance. I'm not sure your problem is caused by it but the dimple is to keep the last round from jumping forward of the extractor due to inertia. Other wise if you are reloading,, 19/19 21/19 will give you a ton of options on a 32 round max COF.. I also saw an NAA. Polished feed ramp? If the problem goes away get some new springs or magazines. Please fill all of the fields correctly before continuing. A correctly made 1911, that is in good repair, simply works. The dogs and I go on walks out at Whereabouts Unknown. We attempt to frequent the shooting areas to scavenge brass. Or any other part of a gun. All tilt-barrel locked breech pistols operate with some degree of stem bind. Gov. Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us." Literally leaving the magazine as the slide hits the impact abutment. Given their super stiffness, I figured they would also be pretty brittle. Subsequent rounds have progressively higher angles. #1/34. What kind of mags and how long has it been since you last changed the springs? Check Your Magazines, gift ideas for your favorite gun-owning father, Gun Review: Kalashnikov USA KS-12 and KS-12T Shotguns, Always Prepared: Everyday Carry Pocket Dump of the Day, One Simple Trick for Keeping Your Guns Incredibly Clean, The Four Rules of Gun Safety for New Gun Ownersand Everyone Else [VIDEO], How to Make Sure Your Shotgun Really Fits You, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4QMVJE7bJY. All jokes aside, magazine then recoil spring are my first checks on hiccups. The tip to wall distance should be .035-.038 inch with .032 as an absolute minimum. For now, all Ill say isBest leave the feed ramp alone, pardner. Unlike the follower in the Colt magazine, the ACT-MAG product uses a follower that has a 100% recessed nose. Was about to order new springs. Then, as SOP I like to use the same file to create a small 45 degree bevel on the bottom corner of the wall. Shortened steel followers arent kept as stable in the tubes as the standard 7-round followers, and accomplish the same thing as the incorrect angle when they rock to and fro in the tubes. Thats a big difference. Follower getting stuck before reaching the top of the magazine? Of course you could always go buy some new 1911 magazines. This has been just an overview. If I were an unscrupulous SOB, I could invent some cock-n-bull story that they have an issue with their barrel, chamber or action, and that I need to do lots of work to their gun to make it feed. I'll test another couple of hundred rounds or so before I'm satisfied this 1911 is reliable. In this segment, well concentrate on magazine-related failures. The feed ramp angle is 31-31.5 degrees with no minus tolerancewhich makes it pretty critical. But I just bought it! or Its never been a problem before! or I dont need to spend those big dollars on those fancy-pants magazines! and on and on. . Are you chasing capacity or reliability? The point in my gun education where I finally realized this was back in the early 90s. 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My guess is that at least 2\3 of those commenting here dont have a clue. Zero problem with factory mags. Here is a true jam. Thanks ! In those days, I owned a Winchester M1 Carbine. Working at a gunshop I once corrected a failure to feed on a brand new S&W .380 bodyguard by using my pocket knife to remove the giant chunk of polymer left over from the molding process that was still attached to the portion of the mag catch that engaged the magazineit couldnt actually lock into the mag because of the debris. "Think you used enough dynamite there Butch? If you MUST use a spray cleaner on a magazine, and are a cheap bastidge as am I, buy some BraKleen. In my experience, 90% or more of the reliability issues with 1911s are the fault of the magazine: think magazine induced stovepipe malfunction or a push feed jam. Second is spring/buffer to load combinations. The lower edge of the breechface catches the case in the extractor groove. My S&W Koenig model had this problem for a while. This one is sneaky. if made properly to the original specs from colt and browning, they will work always period. He correctly pointed out that a semi-automatic handguns most common failure point is the magazines youre using to run it. | I hope that will get her to working again. You think the inner city junkies get radical over a little dope? thats the reason I carry a ultra lite 5 round 38 and two speed loaders. . Is this simply a worn spring issue? I personally have learned more in depth knowledge of the workings of my favorite handgun by reading and paying attention to Johns words than I have learned in a lifetime of shooting JMBs masterpiece. Once activated, you'll be able to login and comment on articles. When Virgil Tripp tunes an extractor, he knows it's not supposed to jump the rim, but he makes sure it can if it needs to. Throated barrel? Greg K. Aint no 9mm rounds have wax on them. I have a S&W 1911 that has recently been failing to feed. etc. --Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). Magazines are a disposable item, treat them as such and live. Your email address will not be published. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. . Ive tried mags from multiple sources. 10/3 108 rounds. If all is within spec mechanically, the pistol will tolerate a surprising amount of tension without causing a problem. So I'm a bit confused. Not hadnt been milled deeply enough, hadnt been milled at all! The feed ramp angle is critical. My newer, more reliable ones are tested and loaded with JHP, and kept at the ready. First, the left side of the follower must sit low enough to properly engage the slide lock when the magazine is empty. He said yes. Had bad luck with grams in my STI 40. Oh, buy quality mags. 3D Printed Guns: Catching Up with Ivan T. 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With the barrel rampaka throattheres more wiggle room as long as the bottom edge of the barrel ramp is sitting slightly forward of the top of the feed rampand even if that gap isnt theremany pistols with the optimum feed ramp will feed hardball without a hitch. Love both of my Colt ARs, Your email address will not be published. All of them. For my CZ-82s, around 25% of the mags fail in the first year regardless of the source. The thing to keep in mind is that the barrel ramp isnt an extension of the feed ramp, and its not a bullet guide. Whenever you experience a failure to feed or return to battery, look for horses instead of Zebras. We're assuming that the gun hasn't been "tuned" by Dremel Dan and his ugly, stupid first cousin Bubba. A 1911 with stovepipe malfunction: also likely the result of a dirty or damaged magazine. I even dropped them in my hand to start with, but that was just too slow. Huh, never would have checked there, Maybe its the 300 rd per second clipazine that goes up? Its a 2 dollar gun with top dollar stainless steel mags. 1911 Failure to Feed - It's NOT (always) the cheap Magazine! IIRC the nationals I did in 2010 ish had 18 stages.. Other times, the failure to go to battery is gun-related, and is known as the Three Point Jam. Ill also defer this one to a this article on feed ramps and barrel rampsor throats as theyre commonly known. Failure to feed is usually caused by either the feed ramp angletoo steepor the magazinenose-diving the round into the feed ramp and refusing to go further. The reason for this split is twofold. Its for squeaky door hinges, or fishing reels, or maybe your kids tricycle, and may make an excellent personal lubricant. Never had a problem with the magazines on my revolvers. Have never seen one before, but sometimes we find 9mm that is similar. The trade off being that if you DO manage to bend the feed lips theres a high chance youll snap them if you try to bend them back at room temperature. Especially after all of the hype. That sounds like a jilted employee adding in floor sweepings after the fact. Then change out your cylinder springs, you hockey puck. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. Check the daily deals, up to 40% off! Palmetto State Armorys Daily Deals aim to provide our customers with new products and best sellers at amazing prices. Daily Deal product offerings include PSAs American Made firearms, AR-15 parts and accessories, 9mm pistols, bulk ammo, magazines, o, Be part of the International Sportsman community. Quality magazines are a sure-fire winning gift. These days its caveat emptor. The slide very often cant be pushed or bumped to batterybut not always. This was my problem as a noob and caused persistent issues with getting a round to chamber, known as failure to feed. I just noticed that after feeding close to 900 rounds through my 4" barrel 1911 style pistol now, my four .45 acp magazines (one kimber and three Chip McCormick which are built differently) are getting pretty sooty inside, at . What if your guns have cylinders instead of magazines?. | If you have done a 22mag pistol or a 10mm 1911 conversion you may run into this. ", if it dont start with a 4, dont go to war. The Colt magazine uses a more reliable, split nose style follower, similar to the original 1911 design. This is where the slide out runs the magazine, meaning the round doesnt get pushed up in time to meet the slide. lroy Then, lightly radius the bottom and top corners of the hook, so that looking at it from the front of the gunit takes on the shape of a D. Back to the frame ramp angle and the accursed 3-Point Jam. Agreed, been through this before. What you are talking about is the 300 rd per second clipazine with a thingy that goes up in the back. Here is another common complaint, and its also straight up a magazine problem. There are suprizingly good reviews for Promags for some guns. Even if you are not a fan of single action only (SAO) pistols, there is no denying the staying power and the reliability of the 1911. Mags are disposable no reason to tolerate any compromise in reliability. When I took it out of the box, I cleaned and lubed it, didn't notice anything wrong. So far its been about 20 mags to every one spring or load issue. These are truer to the original design and have proven more reliable in my testing. That is the question.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. What do you mean by "not feeding"? Its less offensive cousin is an extractor that needs frequent retensioning should the claw climb the rim and snap over. Stretching the spring is only a temporary fix. Very accurate and great trigger. Did you ever find anything resembling meringue in a 10/22 mag?. Factory ammo? Most often, thoughit pushes the bullet nose hard into the lower part of the feed ramp, and gouges the caseoften tying the gun up solidly. Grams combo is a good one for sure. Ill probably still buy their AR-15s though. All semi-autos fed with detachable magazines can have magazine issues. 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Im extremely frustrated and disappointed. Mags were 3 new wilson combat 7 rd and 1 DW 7 rd. Pack it in, pack it out, be safe, be courteous. I have tried different brands of brass cased ammo (Remington UMC and WWB) as well as Snap-Caps. One of his mags wasnt feeding properly, so I disassembled it. Ill pay extra to get long, trouble free life. When I show people how to clean magazines, and then I show them what I pull out of them (esp. This usually occurs on the last or next to last round in a magazine. Thank you for joining the International Sportsman community. So if you are having a magazine issue with any gun, try taking apart your mags and giving them a good cleaning before you start looking for issues with the firearm itself. If youre interested in some other perspectives, check out Range Hot and/or Gunbelts.com. Although I havent seen limited mags gauged in a LONG time.
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