Maris was shut out during a twi-night doubleheader (games 152 and 153). WebRoger Maris was a really good baseball player who has only a small number of Hall of Fame years, including one that included a Hall of Fame accomplishment. Coincidence? other than that, his whole career was pretty good not great. . "But it was another Yankee that did it. The arguments against Maris include his struggles with durability and longevity, with his 1,463 games played being on the very low end for a candidate. However, Roger was still five games ahead of the record pace by Ruth, whose 51st HR didn't come until his 139th game. But an infection forced the Mick out of the race in September, and he finished with 54 homers. The hit total would be the lowest of all position players who did not play in the negro leagues. I have seen plenty of highlights and video footage. You judge a player by the impact he had in his time. Clearly, Maris was a very good player as evidenced by his 1960 MVP. He also worked at The News Journal in Wilmington, Del., and for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. In the NL my childhood hero, Orlando Cepeda hit .311 with 46 home runs and an astounding 142 RBIs. Fastball, hit deep to right! Citing proof and linking to articles I am all for. The Hall of Fame DOES have a records room which celebrates record holders and award winners, etc. And a melee broke out as fans scuffled and scrambled, fighting for the ball and the $5,000 reward. The most beautiful comment in my e-mail came from Altenir Silva, a baseball-savvy writer in Rio de Janeiro. Before last night, both of these records were shared by both Maris and Judge for 61 total home runs. Considering the constant crap Maris put up with from badgering sportswriters & Ford Frick, Ill disagree with you! The guy was the best at his position for more than half his career. PCGS | But his size doesn't guarantee anything. There is pretty clearly no ball being thrown or hit in this video. Maris did not accomplish that. I'm sure tons of reporters covered the story. His 1960 performance was quickly eclipsed, however, by the circus atmosphere surrounding his 1961 campaign. You don't think Barry Bonds could have hit 73 in 2001 without cheating when Maris hit 61 in 1961? He McGwire said that breaking the single season home run record was a gift from the guy upstairs. He HAD an overall body of work. But claiming he is ANYWHERE near Kaline or Clemente with the glove is just silly. Maybe, the HOF should create a gallery of MVPS and longstanding major record holders( not to mention greatest defensive players and players who were chosen by their peers for All Star games or the current day Outstanding Player Award).Then, visitors.would better understand and appreciate great baseball, and Roger Maris would be well represented in the Hall. Im a huge yankee fan.. All my life. Aaron Judge is on pace for 65+. He won the two MVPs, which means something, but heck so did Juan Gonzalez. The 23,154 roaring fans at Yankee Stadium were quieted. I mean it's hard to choose him over Rudi or Bando, much less the likes of Jackson or Grich. Maris would be a very unusual selection for the Hall of Fame. And that lots of people hated him for the rest of his career for having the nerve to break Babe Ruths record. The defensive play of the Series, recalls Ralph Terry, the winning pitcher, in the excellent new biography, Roger Maris, Baseballs Reluctant Hero, by Tom Clavin and Danny Peary. Lifetime Yankee fan. (In 1989 Fernando Tatis of the Cardinals hit two grand slams in the same inning!). Aaron Judge is almost certainly on something, theyre just better about avoiding tests these days. it is entirely possible that Maris cheated on his way to 61 as it certainly was a statistical anomaly for him. News Corp is a global, diversified media and information services company focused on creating and distributing authoritative and engaging content and other products and services. Born in Jersey City, N.J., Curry graduated from Fordham University. But he fizzled out after that and was finished at age 28. Maris would be a very unusual selection for the Hall of Fame. Roger was MVP in 1960 because Yankees finished 2nd in 1959 with Bauer and Woodling in RF and Roger helped Yankees win AL pennant again. As far as Cardgeek is concerned, I suppose the earth is flat and the moon landings were staged in Hollywood. Some fans disagreed with my saying Maris does not quite reach the standards of the Baseball Hall of Fame because of his modest batting average (.260), The next season the American League added two teams and expanded the schedule to 162 games. There were over 500 other baseball players during this expansion era and they did not hit 61 home runs. Maris hit behind Bobby Richardson and Tony Kubek, and he had Mickey Mantle hitting behind him. That was why he got so many RBI opportunities, and why pitchers challenged him even when runners were on base. By the way I have always thought of 1961 as the year of the home run. Sadly, and bizarrely, the players considered by the various Committees aren't even close to the best players from their eras who aren't enshrined. They traded him to the Athletics, and in two seasons with the As, Maris stood out as a power threat from the left side. Most Yankees fans were rooting for his home-grown teammate, Mickey Mantle. Yankees All-Time Team >The 100 Greatest Right Fielders of All-Time >The All-Time Player Rankings >20 Greatest Yankees of All-Time >. While the Hall of Fame may always elude Maris, the rejuvination of interest in his career may work in his favor to one day get the call to Cooperstown. MANY players elected in the hall did not have the stats or years of modern day electees. They were games 152,153 and 154. @ScoobyDoo2 said: Quick Links: This is the short version. He was an All-Star in baseball with the Kansas City Royals in 1989 and a Pro Bowl pick with the Raiders in 1990. Personally, I regard Maris still to be baseballs season Home Run Leader, excluding Bonds, McGuire and Sosa. He does not have the career milestones, and his short peak, while very good, was not excellent. I was 14 years old and an eye witness to the duel in 1961 between Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris for Babe Ruths 60-dinger record from 1927. it could also mean he made contact. To use an analogy in the sportscard world - I bought my most expensive card ever last year which was 3x more than I ever paid for a card. Mickey was instrumental in convincing Roger to come back to Yankee Stadium to be honored by the club in the early 80's. He absolutely legitimately hit 61 in '61, no ifs and or buts about it!!! If anything, I think it strengthens the Hall by acknowledging the true single-season HR king. A native of Philadelphia and a graduate of Vanderbilt University, Kepner has also covered He's short across the board IMO except for the fame part, which he does have. Ford Fricks name should be Ford Prick.As far as Im concerned he still owns the record at 61. Finally, Maris waved his cap to the cheering crowd of 23,154 fans that gave him a standing ovation. Nothing like that in MLB since I've been watching baseball. I respectfully disagree. You will be notified in advance of any changes in rate or terms. Put them both in. He is still the single season non juiced HR record holder. It's hard to watch average NFL players and even convicts get into the NFL HOF while MLB struggles to acknowledge generational stars ~ in many cases careers like Dave Parker, Steve Garvey and Dale Murphy made the All Star team in almost every season in which they played. Maris is an extraordinary example of stardom. Many other fans wrote that just breaking Babe Ruths single-season record of 60 (in a season eight games longer than the Babes) under intense pressure was enough to qualify If I remember right, Killebrew, Cash and Gentile and perhaps others in the AL. Maris for the Hall. Maybe I see your point about Joe Jackson. How sweet. Maris made his Major League debut on April 16, 1957, with the Cleveland Indians. RSVP at Plays4pars@aol.com. The announcer and the right fielder had no doubt. I felt my IQ drop just by reading the comments in this thread. Roger Maris has no Hall of Fame case. career falls short of Hall of Fame standards, but I am impressed by the knowledgeable fans who believe Maris belongs. Rogers swing was crafted by Zeus for the right field dimensions of Yankee Stadium, and in his first season in The Bronx, Maris hit 39 home runs and led the league in runs batted in. This thread took a hard left turn since my last login. Over 1,463 games, Maris logged 195 doubles, 42 triples, 275 home runs and 850 RBIs. No, for decades the RBI stat (and homers) were extremely important to MVP voters. But if you make a group of "elite" players and include Baines and Hunter along with Hederson and Seaver then the definition of greatness begins to lose meaning. Maris for hall is mainly sentiment. Twelve votes were necessary for induction. With a resume such as his, and the attention brought to Maris by Aaron Judge, has left many fans asking: why is Maris not in the Hall of Fame? I realize Barry Bonds isn't the most humble guy. It takes decades often for the narratives to soften for the MLB HOF voting members to offer their "peace pipe" & get excellence recognized. Only 263 have made it into the Hall of Fame. The only thing Roger Maris had going for him was a major record. He was great, but was unfortunately held back by the front office, bitter sportwriters fickle fans and injuries.He would have had lots of seasons like 1960 ( not 1961). Maris is to Clemente, Kaline, Aaron, and Robinson as Kirk Gibson is to Reggie Jackson. He played his final Major League game at age 34, retiring with a career .260/.345/.476 slash line. Stallard got Maris out in his first at bat. Way outside, ball oneAnd the fans are starting to boo. The whole subject is really sadRoger Maris career got derailed.He got forced by the Yankees to pursue going for pulled home runs too much in 61.Then, after my fellownYankee Fans started booing him in 1962 he , I believe, doubled down on the pulling8 rather than being more of a BillyWilliams (Cubs) type of hitter which was more natural for him.Then, the injuries, finally the disabling one to the wrist at the age of 30. Or my brothers friend. What if a lot of people had money on Maris not breaking this record and the commissioner just gave it to him for publicity. | I do not agree with every decision the Veterans Committee makes but I am appreciative there is a mechanism to get guys in after the Voters have spoken for 10 years time. Here's the windup, the pitch to Roger. He went through Hell because no one wanted him to break Ruths record. Meanwhile, in 1927, Babe Ruth hit his 48th and 49th homers in his 134th game. Expert Unfortunately both Roger and Mickey had retired before I was born. Even the stars benefited from expansion, which was rational reaction to the growth of the talent pool. When he hit the 61st home run I screamed so loud I had a headache for about a week." . Then look at Larry Bowa when he retired he had the highest fielding percentage of all shortstops that ever played in MLB and set the record two times for fewest errors by shortstop in a season he also had the most hits by a shortstop in the history of MLB and the writers didnt like him and you guessed it hes not in the HoF. https://EzineArticles.com/expert/Mickey_Morgan/1169320, http://ezinearticles.com/?Why-Isnt-Roger-Maris-in-the-Baseball-Hall-of-Fame?&id=6537020. There was as similar spurt in 1969 and a lesser one in 1977. The 6-foot, 197-pound outfielder belted 39 homers (one behind Mantle's league-leading 40), led the AL with 112 RBI and a.581 slugging percentage, hit a career-high.283 and won his only Gold Glove. My Man Taxerman, a faithful Yankees fan, also reinforced my observation that Maris was a superb right fielder. Note: Bill Mazeroskis series-winning home run for the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1960 certainly deserves to be on the list, but Mazeroski is already in the baseball Hall of Fame the one in Cooperstown. All welcome. I'd have to say that anybody who beats Babe Ruth at ANYTHING deserves to be in, particularly when you see the Hall voting right now excluding McGwire, Sosa and Bonds repeatedly. PSA | be held against him. Fans of Roger Maris were quick to respond to my column Sunday, @reelinintheyears said: I believe he needs to be inducted. Others were glad I mentioned that Maris led the 1960s with World Series appearances seven, including four championships and that he was the most valuable player in 1960 and 1961. Similarly, at least in my opinion, Hank Aaron remains baseballs all time Home Run leader to this day, regardless of Bud Selig, who was complicit in the era of Its highly unlikely that Maris will be elected by this committee in December, but his career should be remembered for more than just his very high points. There are players who are not in the Hall of Fame and likely will not be anytime in the future but their significant singular achievements are more than worthy of their special place in baseball history. Mariss career stats will continue to be evaluated by future veterans committees, so for those pulling for him, theres always a possibility. Maybe that doesnt put him over the top, but it deserves more than a brief mention. He played at the same time as Frank Robinson, Henry Aaron, Al Kaline, Roberto Clemente, and Rocky Colavito, all of whom were better players. Now, nearly 26 years after his death, it is time to make amends and put Roger Maris where he belongs - in the Hall of Fame. I've actually changed my mind about Maris. The pitcher has a ball. But it was only a matter of time before the Yankees would yank him (sorry) from Kansas City. If nothing else, Maris should at least have a spot in the Hall of Fame . Please put in The Cobra and Munson! In the video his uniform is remarkably white for an away uniform. Now, with Judge taking over the record, it has left baseball fans wondering about Roger Maris' legacy. Who is Roger Maris and is he in the Hall of Fame. Eliminate 1956 and Mantle is still an HOFer. But I hate it when we make the argument on stats and conjecture. 2021-08-12. Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact. I'm sure it lead to his career being so short. Maury Wills:In 1962, he stole a record-shattering 104 bases while being caught only 13 times. I've always been a big Maris fan, but don't see how it would be possible to make it into the Hall after an 11-year career. I also wouldn't mind seeing Mattingly, Murph and KHernandez either. Read21 hours ago | Lance Morrow, Article viewed iconAn icon to mark the viewed articles Still waiting on my last PSA submission. Maris has 1.325 hits in his 12-year career, which by the way, would be one of the shorter careers for a position player in the Hall of Fame. I don't know the math. Jack Curry has covered baseball for the The New York Times for 18 seasons. Maris hit 13 homers against the Senators and Angels. In 15 years on the Baseball Writers' Association of America ballot, Maris peaked at 43.1% of the vote in 1988, his 15th and final year of BBWAA eligibility. We are delighted that you'd like to resume your subscription. ", Roger Maris hit his 61st home run exactly 61 years ago today in 1961. Nobody, it seemed, wanted him to break Babe Ruth's record. What has happened to sports cards in the past 20 years really bothers me. Yankee fans and baseball fans should be screaming loud now - perhaps the guys on the Veterans Committee will hear you. Maybe he doesn't have the greatest career stats. Elroy Face:He went 18-1 out of the bullpen for the 1959 Pirates for a winning percentage of .947, best in history (with at least 10 decisions). Readmore, The Mets maybe should, but most assuredly wont, defy all expectations and make a legitimate bid to lure Robinson Cano away from the Yankees.Readmore, The Yankees are waiting to hear whether Curtis Granderson will accept their qualifying offer, and set their outfield for 2014, or test the market and send the Yankees chasing another free agent. The Indians had a glut of outfielders in their organization and inexplicably ignored the 69 homers Maris hit in three seasons in their system. Just 2-3 great seasons and a few more really good seasons isnt enough. This last is simply not true. Give him his goddamned plaque. The HR record non- withstanding, Maris was a 7-time all-star and 2-time MVP. Reynolds pitched 10 dominant innings of one-run ball in Game 2, lifting New York to a 2-1 victory. A kid grabbed his hand as he turned past first - Maris shook hands and then did the same thing with third base coach Frank Crosetti as he turned past third base and headed home. It's like the 1974 MVP races where there was no reason to vote for either winner. Roger Maris, who had to be drained both physically and emotionally faced 24-year-old Red Sox right-hander Tracy Stallard. Should say North Dakota, sorry about the error. But, Maris is way, way more famous than any baseball player not in the HOF. Maris had three games in which to "officially" break Ruth's record. Reynolds, a standout hurler for the Indians and Yankees from 1942-54, received six votes from the 16-member electorate charged with reviewing the Early Baseball Era ballot. You will be charged Readmore, The Yankees, the Mets, and Major League Baseball. You could probably do the same with 90%+ of those in the hall. That was mostly because he batted behind Mickey Mantle, but Maris was named MVP in 1960. https://www.google.com/search?q=Ford+Frick+"Roger+Maris"+ruth&ei=QbjpYqjFE-3YkPIPl6aHsAE&ved=0ahUKEwjo6Yq-rKn5AhVtLEQIHRfTARYQ4dUDCA0&uact=5&oq=Ford+Frick+"Roger+Maris"+ruth&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwgAEEcQsAM6BQgAEJECOgUILhCRAjoRCC4QgAQQsQMQgwEQxwEQ0QM6CAguELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToFCAAQgAQ6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOhAILhCxAxCDARDHARDRAxBDOgQILhBDOgQIABBDOg0ILhCxAxCDARDUAhBDOggIABCxAxCDAToKCAAQsQMQgwEQQzoKCC4QsQMQgwEQQzoICC4QgAQQsQM6CgguELEDEIMBEAo6CAguENQCEJECOgsILhCABBDHARCvAToFCC4QgAQ6CAguEIAEENQCOgUIABCGAzoGCAAQHhAWOggIABAeEBYQCjoGCAAQHhANOgQIABAeOgUIIRCgAToFCCEQqwJKBAhBGABKBQhAEgExSgQIRhgAUIUEWNxmYN5oaARwAXgAgAHPAogBziqSAQgwLjMxLjIuMZgBAKABAcgBCLgBA8ABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz, Yes, folks I do realize, this is likley tantamount to "playing chess with pigeons" :sigh. I wouldn't say he's more famous than Pete Rose. There is no doubt he is 1 of my favorite Yankees. While fans largely celebrated Mantle, Maris received hate mail and threats from fans who thought he was unworthy of the Great Bambinos record. Denny McClain: The last of the 30-game winners (20 wins is very rare now), he went 31-6 in 1968 to win the American League Cy Young Award for the Tigers. In 1961, Maris did not homer in his first ten games, but by the end of May he had hit 12. While Maris may not be a household name for younger MLB fans, Aaron Judge's quest for 62 home runs has shone a little on the former New York slugger. Please at least get your facts correct? Thats a pretty unusual opinion. Koufax was clearly one of the best arms in his prime, but his career was so brief, especially considering he didn't hit his stride until it was nearly halfway over! Thanks for reading and the comment, Bob. I remember the newspapers and sports magazines were trying to create an adversary relationship between Roger and Mickey. Judge had something like 900 unique cards graded by PSA before he played a major league game. But, Barry Bonds was taught by some of the best baseball players in the world. But all Roger Maris was known for was 61 swings that produced 61 homers in 1961. Seems about right for the situation. Only 5-foot-8 and 155 pounds, hes still alive at 93. Or have my sister do it. Roger Maris Claim to fame: This October will mark the 50th anniversary of Roger Mariss 61st home run in the 1961 season. Mantle rebutted these attempts to divide the two. Have you heard of Honus Wagner, Derek Jeter, Cal Ripken and host of others? But he struck out, flied out and grounded out. Bunch of players ahead of Maris in the HOF discussion. Ford Frick was a good buddy of Babe Ruth's he did not want anyone breaking the Babe's record. Maybe also because he was Native American? What I would like to see is retired players vote for induction in to the Hall of Fame. I don't think anybody can argue reasonably that it isn't. I don't talk to people about baseball. the latest updates from spring training. F Craig was a three-time Super Bowl champion and four-time Pro Bowl player. On the one hand, youll be remembered. In the video the right fielder looks like he's wearing the number 9. If you're committed to voting for a Dodger and won't vote for Messersmith because pitchers have their own award, what is the argument for voting for Garvey over Wynn? Silva wrote: Comets are fast! He really had little baseball left in him when he played his final games for the Cardinals in 1968.
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