This man is either listed as "Hoff" or "Hussmann" on the Hunter Subsistence Lists in 1710 and 1712. With the offseason program underway, the depth chart is going to see some changing. Sounds like a heart attack or stroke as it was in the middle of August when he died & we know how hot it gets in SC in that time of year. Some worked on surrounding farms. In 1709 several hundred Palatine families settled in Ireland. The survivors were encamped in tents, the had brought with them from England, on Nutting, now Governor's Island. I wish I could find if I have family in Germany still since Im also a descendant from Melchor. However Ill talk to Garry Finkell about spreading the work to our members about your work. My ancestors were Palatinate immigrants that settled on the Mohawk River upstream from the Hudson River in NY during that time period, too. Private Messages: to the Queen's most Sacred Majesty . In Colleton county, on the north bank of North Ediston river, 12 miles from its mouth, stands Wilton, or New London, consisting of 80 houses built by Swiss under the direction of Zuberbhuler, with leave from the Assembly. They were initially crowded into St. Katherines, also written as St. Catherines, today known as St. Katherines by the Tower. Hunter Dickinsons next college could bring him back to his high school days. 5/1230 and was corrected from the accompanying "ledger" C.O. Bruce, I hope youre aware of the Palatine DNA Project at FTDNA. Thank you so much for this Heads Up! Its excellent! The Lashers stayed in Germantown and intermarried with many other Palatine families but the Finkles have fewer generations in the area. A copy is in the rare book room of the NY Public Library. in general and descendants of the Palatines in particular have long felt a Shes also at FTDNA but not elsewhere since the only reason I was able to do her autosomal was because her DNA was archived at FTDNA. Of course, onlyproperty owners received compensation and that didnt include the tenants. YSearch showed several people with either the Egli surname or Egli in their pedigree charts, but nothing that would suggest that they connect to the Egli family from Hoffensheim-Sinsheim. They worked off their indenture, got land & when Isaac died in 1759 he was buried on his plantation near Orangeburgh, SC. The old ship ties still exist at St. Katherines docks. . Hunters ration lists on the same site. locations are from the census reports in Doc. Jim Wilson. being Widows and Orphans have been sussisted to this time. Irish] and returned to England and Germany Of the Landlords who successfully managed to induce their allotment of Palatine immigrants to remain in rural Ireland, the most successful was Sir Thomas Southwell of Castle Matrix near Rathkeale, Co. Many of these men were assigned so-called Hunter List numbers when they arrived in New York State. WebTOWN OF PALATINE MONTGOMERY COUNTY, NY The Town of Palatine Ancestor Registry is for families you've accurately traced to this township only. Edenkoben, Palatinate, Bavaria, Germany WebPalatines (Palatine German: Plzer) are the citizens and princes of the Palatinate states of the Holy Roman Empire, controlled directly by the Holy Roman Emperor. Queen Anne received them in England and sent some to Ireland to the estates of sympathetic Protestant landlords. In 1708 and 1709, thirty three thousand, on an invitation of Queen Anne, left their homes in the Rhine country for London, where some twelve or thirteen thousand arrived in the summer of 1708. The Moravians made no permanent settlement in Georgia. In the spring of 1734, some Lutherans, known in history as Saltzburgers, from Saltzburg, a city of Upper Austria, arrived in Georgia. Having entirely overrun all buildings available, they lived in tents in squalid conditions and the local London people came to view them as entertainment. From 1735, settlements in Pennsylvania multiplied rapidly; extended over vast regions, west of the Susquehanna, whither the Scotch-Irish had led the way. We had a parcel that came over about five years ago, who purchased land about sixty miles west of Philadelphia, and proved quiet and industrious.". This was done in pursuance of a scheme, proposed by Mr. Pury to the Assembly of South Carolina; his scheme was to propel the southern frontier of Carolina with brave and laborious people, such as the Swiss are known to be. Check the Rhonebeck and Poughkeepsie libraries for important genealogical collections. 130 Mannor of Livinsgton 24 June 1712. . Typhus continued to decimate the emigrants. Two thousand were consigned to the grave. The other dissatisfied Germans at Schoharie, who did to choose to follow their friends to Pennsylvania sought for and found a future home on the frontier in Mohawk Valley. As in all new countries, the Palatines were exposed to trials, privations and hardships incident to border life. Ill be writing about Jacob Kobels line soon. .81 days from 25 June. Viewing the Shafer project, it does appear that the 1709er Schaeffer line has probably tested and is a subgroup of haplogroup U106. Soldiers in Canadian Exposition of 1711. I notice there are only 4 in that project. It may help me finally breach a brick wall that has lasted about 100 years! There were 3 000 Palatines on 10 ships that sailed for NY and approximately 470 died on the voyage or shortly after their arrival. I descend from Jost Henrich. These are wonderful resources. The vines froze and put thousands of people out of work including Daniel. Most of us are still there. https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/272283, I initially ran across this newspaper at Fulton Postcards here Our family story does not tell about the treatment of the Palatines by the French Army, but relates that the winter of 1708-09 was the worst weather on record. of Palatine Families Remaining in New York 1710. In 1712, they purchases a large tract of land from Penn's agents in Pequae, then Chester, now Lancaster county. Im zeroing in on precise timeframes and locations in my search for Gertrudes family. I believe that there were 39 families that came with Mr Weiser, following the head waters of the Susquehanna River, to Swatara Creek at modern day Harrisburg PA, and they followed the creek and went and additional twenty some miles and settled what is known today as The Tulpehocken Settlement. You can view the grouping of men that match, in yellow, below. doriswh@gmail.com. The book made me celebrate all the marvelous coincidences that continues to happen in my family research. Weiser came back to New York in 1723. And the remainder The 1709ers would have fit right in were it not for the fact there were so many of them. They had been driven from their country and their homes, on account of their unswerving attachment to the principles of the Gospel. It is was something of a surprise to find the the Ketzebach line were Loyalists and went to Canada just prior or during the Revolutionary war period. May 1, 2023 7:30 am CT. In this, too, he failed. One reason is the revelation last week that the Biden for President campaign helped to organize the open letter that spread disinformation about Hunter Bidens famous Scarcely had the Mennonites commenced making their lands arable, when they sent a commissioner, Martin Kendig, to Germany and to Switzerland, to induce others to come to Pennsylvania. March 31, 2022 March 31, 2022 Ronald L. Fake. A Note to Researchers using this Web-site: As you use this site, please keep in This gives you an idea of how small the neighborhood of St. Katherines actuallywas. At Elizabethtown, where the first English settlement was made in New Jersey, 1664, there were many Germans prior to 1730. Queen Anne, who well understood the policy of England, to retain her own subjects at home, encouraged the emigration of Germans, sent some of those whom she had invited in 1708 and 1709, to Virginia; settled them above the falls of the Rappahannock, in Spotsylvania county, where they commenced a town, called Germanna. But until your article today, I had no idea that it was the site of the Palatinates in London. 29 New York 4 October 1710. Article on Palatine ancestors free on Jstor, The families from which the writer is descended have no. case where residence is known as follows: E---East My spouses ex is a Palantine descendant (Abraham Defoe, Christoph and Henrich Ketzbach, Johann Georg Reiffenberger lines). You can see the neighborhood to the right of the tower, both above and below. England became desperate to get rid of this group of people they hadnt wanted nor invited and who couldnt support themselves. Made a few interesting discoveries but need to take the time to make some kind of a spreadsheet to make sense of it all. St. Johnsville, NY., 1933. Johan Peter Wagner is my relation and his story is Palatine Roots by Nancy Wagoner Dixon 1994. In NY, the Palatines were expected to work for the British authorities, producing naval stores [tar and pitch] for the navy in return for their passage to NY. Lists to England, 2nd to 6th Sailings, Names When the Spanish War broke out, they removed, almost to a man, to the State of Pennsylvania, because it was contrary to their religious faith to take up arms in any cause. I had to pinch myself to believe I was really standing here where my ancestors stood. One hundred of them were massacred by the Tuskarora Indians, Sept 22, 1707. WITH A FOREWORD BY DIXON RYAN FOX. About 470 died on the voyages. Governor Hunter's Ration Lists In fact, decades later, many were still trying to obtain their free land to which they were just sure they were entitled. They are my 6th great grandparents. What to do? Doris Wheeler. Having reached Schoharie, they made improvements upon the lands Queen Anne had granted them. .N. Published by The Enterprise and News Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. I hope it is ok to post this here. (W), Another family line arrived in Philadelphia in 1738 they are not part of the 1709/10 group, but they *did* come from the Palatinate in roughly the same era, from from Bosenbach near Kusel. Did some intense searching online and found a current email address for the author; expect Ill hear from her soon. 103. Doing some deep digging, one of the names Im looking at is Schaffer because of some baptism sponsorship. . Some perished on ships. WebPalatine Children Apprenticed by Gov. CONTENT MAY BE COPYRIGHTED BY WIKITREE COMMUNITY MEMBERS. Were they Celts or Saxonsor maybe Huns before they were Germans seeking refuge? 1985. Charles W. Meiser NOTE: In Palatine Families of New York, Hank Jones lists the last name as "Haas," and his family has a different point of origin than Johann Christian Hau. He had left Hoffensheim-Sinsheim. He falsely claimed that the Palatines had taken possession of lands in Schoharie already granted to others. Other Palatine families Im descended from include Feg/Feck, Koch, Helmer, Hilts, and Dornberger. (N), New York city. The locality was unpropitious. According to the story, the ship stopped at Rotterdam and the people there fed them. Roberta, Unfortunately, Roberta, they apparently only accept Y-DNA and, separately, mtDNA. Palatine Records in the United States. This will give you better tools and access to people who have tested with other DNA companies (FamilytreeDNA, 23andMe). I am descended from their daughter Agnes, who married Johannes Fischbach, also original Germanna Colony settlers. Im a direct descendant of Palatine Wilhelm Johann Pulver. I was already planning on driving through Rhinebeck and Germantown on my trip to the Mohawk Valley, will check these sources out beforehand too. On the inward passage, and immediately on landing, seventeen hundred died. The DNA test shows some German DNA, but a lot of the DNA from the German I think gets lumped in with England/Wales/Northern Europe on Ancestry. IMPORTANT PRIVACY NOTICE & DISCLAIMER: YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO USE CAUTION WHEN DISTRIBUTING PRIVATE INFORMATION. You might want to try this area. for 4 days subsistance distributed. Secondary Sources to be used with Caution, Pennsylvania German Pioneers: A Publication of the Original Lists of Arrivals in the Port of Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808, A collection of upwards of Thirty-thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 1776, Even More Palatine Families: 18th Century Immigrants to the American Colonies and Their German, Swiss, and Austrian Origins, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Palatine_Migration_Research_Resources. Many of the migrants who lived near each other in New York, came from the same hometowns in Germany. I gave it up because I didnt have time to do what I had hoped. It was the only one available. Charles W. Meiser Some men joined the British army. Beast Masters will be able to add an exotic pet to their collection in the form of the Magmasnail. They sailed from Philadelphia, but their ship was overtaken by pirates. What tests do I need to take at FTDNA to look for a match? WebCONTACT US Traditions Performance Firearms 1375 Boston Post Road P.O. In 1735 there were 268 German immigrants who arrived in the port. Thank you for your comments. Players will show growth and development and the new rookies and free agents are going to show what they have One hundred and fifty families, to escape the certainty of famishing, left, in the autumn of 1712, for Schoharie Valley, some sixty miles, northwest of Livingston Manor. They camped on Blackheath until December 1709, according to the New York City Reformed Churchbook, then went on board ship, but did not sail until April. Behind the old Teskey home a carved stone cider press is still in position under an old tree, an interesting validation of the fact that the Palatines brought stone-cutting and winemaking skills with them from Germany. Please click on the links in the articles or to the vendors below if you are purchasing products or DNA testing. Baltimore: Genealogical Pub. Thought the Limerick Palatines spread out to other areas, particularly north Kerry and Tipperary, Rathkeale remained an important focal point. I love these old brick streets too. I know that a number of the Palatines who settled in the Schoharie Valley ended up in Pennsylvaia. The 1709ersreceived their nickname because thats the year they arrived, en masse, in London, descending on a city that was not prepared for them. After hearing of the problems that The Germans were having in the Albany area; Mr. Franklin facilitated an offer between William Penn and the Settlers, being offered up to 100 acres each of free land for settling in Pennsylvania. They tried to make life as normal as possible. There were some descendants who came back to Vermont and later to MInnesota. They started The Old Stoney Creek Church. Information Background. (Even though Im not descended from the Wagners.). In the 1830s, 185 families left Ireland and settled in Canada - mainly Ontario. Police Department Of Palatine average salary is 112 percent higher than USA average and median salary is 129 percent higher than USA median. The aove link was just one of them. 1700 April 20, 2023, 3:36 PM PDT. My dad (kit #A401371) matches your kit #A206179 on Chromosome 20, 7.2 cM. So great was the influx at this time of Swiss and German immigrants, as to call forth, as already stated, public attention, especially of those in office. Yet another privilege we have as genealogists: rediscovering and passing on this knowledge! Or browse general columns by searching Germans, Irish immigrants in the 1840s, Norwegian in the 1850s thru 1875 (my maternal grandfather).and my wife from the Philippines in the late 1970s.so difficult to leave your homeland for a new world. 91. WIKITREE PROTECTS MOST SENSITIVE INFORMATION BUT ONLY TO THE EXTENT STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE AND PRIVACY POLICY. The rest lived off of English generosity and the Queen. Its a bit overwhelming. There have been many different spellings over time. Leave a message for others who see this profile. 155 (no place given) 23 September 1713 for unequal time subsistance from 13 the summer of 1931 Mr. Boyd Ehle through his London agents caused a search I am descendant of Johannes and Magdalena Zeh. Sadly, the publisher of the book Im looking for is permanently closed. 2,600 Palatines, driven from their homes by the ravages of two wars and religious persecution ( the Palatinate is along the Rhine river ), arrived at Nutten Island ( Governors Island ). Theres a lot of potential there. Their attempts at agriculture were therefore restricted within a very narrow compass, and the settlement of the adjoining country was retarded until the French power and influence in Nova Scotia were subdued. The New York City Council protested the arrival of 2500 disease laden passengers within their jurisdiction and demanded that the Palatines stay in tents on Nutten (Governors) Island, offshore. David Nitschliman. Religious persecution, political oppression drove thousands to Pennsylvania - to the asylum from the harrassed and depressed sons and daughters of the relics of the Reformation, whither William Penn himself invited the persecuted of every creed and religious opinion. two folio volumes, clearly written and bound in undressed calf are the statement Governor Hunter resorted to violent measures to secure obedience to his demands. At Goshenhoppen there was a German Reformed church, organized as early as 1717. 770 E Dundee Rd, Palatine, IL 60074 (708) 733-7750. we welcome you to use the information provided on this web site by copying The first 900 people were given housing, food and supplies by a number of wealthy Englishmen. Thanks to this blog of yours I was able to get a hard copy of The Melchor Engle Family History and I am so excited. An incredibly well kept secret. Thank you so much. Please add your Palatine ancestors to this project. There are no projects for either Egli, Suder or Sonsst. They were forced to subsist on unhealthy food. years): 3 adults 1 young; 1 adults, as the case may be. In 1723, some thirty-three Palatine families, dissatisfied under Governor Hunter's rule, migrated from The project seems to be managed by WorldConnect.org now and Im not even a member and cant be under their rules. Edenkoben, Palatinate, Bavaria, Germa "Hans Jacob Seltzer was born in 1732 in the Upper Rhine Province, near Coblentz, in the vicinity of the famous Seltzer Springs in Germany. 1718 Map of Major Palatine According to the Irish Palatine Association, The Landlords of Irish estates wanted to increase the Protestant tenant population In September 1709, almost 3000 Palatines were relocated to rural Ireland, with a roughly equivalent number being transported to New York and North Carolina. Hudson~Mohawk~Schoharie In 1709, when the Palatinates were living at St. Katherines by the Tower, a beautiful church and hospital were locatedthere as well, known as St. Katharines Church. Bremen, a village in the same county, and Frankfort, in Waldo county, were undoubtedly laid out, or settled by Germans, as the names would indicate. They immigrated to America in the very late 1600s or possibly 1700s on the ship concord. The brother of my Albrecht/Albright ancestor, Jacob, is the Albright that persevered being beaten, almost to death several times; in an attempt to spread a new religion that he had come up with and believed in. They were those of whom Governor Thomas said, 1738: 'This Province has been for some years the asylum of the distressed Protestants of the Palatinate, and other parts of Germany; and I believe, it may truthfully he said, that the present flourishing condition of it is in a great measure owing to the industry of those people; it is not altogether the fertility of the soil, but the number and industry of the people, that makes a country flourish.'. teesside university account details, jenna cooper baby down syndrome, audible plus catalogue,
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